Frontier Red Team Human Lead Logan Graham discusses the power of AI and cybersecurity threats on “Mornings with Maria.”
As the world enters what experts call the “Fourth Industrial Revolution,” American business leaders are betting heavily on the future of the republic.
FOX Affairs’ “Mornings with Maria” has entered the high-stakes world of artificial intelligence, revealing how the titans of banking, defense and technology are investing hundreds of billions of dollars to build AI infrastructure and data centers that will redefine the American economy.
Dina Powell McCormick, President and Vice President of Meta Platforms
McCormick discussed launch of Meta Musea new visual coding AI platform for high-stakes reasoning and creative tasks. She claimed that it became the second most downloaded app on its launch day and that it was mostly about humans.
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“There’s a lot of fear right now, Maria, about artificial intelligence” McCormick said. “But I think if we really come back to the fact that this is about giving people more time to help them find their potential and their passions, and that’s how we really think about Muse, but also the fact, frankly, that our platform every day, there are 3.5 billion people on our platform, and that’s both a daunting responsibility and really exciting because as we develop this product and these technologies, this is distribution we are talking about. “
Top leaders such as Anthropic, Meta, Google and more joined “Mornings with Maria” for its special week on AI. (Getty Images)
Brad Smith, president and vice president of Microsoft
Smith framed the AI boom as a massive reindustrialization of America that requires an annual investment of $140 billion to solve critical national problems such as rural doctor shortages and wildfire prevention, while maintaining a competitive advantage over China.
“That’s a big part of what President (Donald) Trump calls the industrialization of America. When you look at the economic impact of that, what we contribute in terms of jobs, but more importantly, what we bring in terms of capabilities for every part of the economy, that’s critical,” Smith said.
Brad Smith, vice president and president of Microsoft, discusses the profound impact of AI on healthcare, improved diagnostics and the doctor shortage.
“I think one of the most important things we do as a company, and frankly what the president has pushed the entire industry, rightly so, to do, is pay our own way. That means we pay for the power generation that we need, so that neighbors and ratepayers don’t have to,” he continued.
“Anytime you have AI that controls something like infrastructure, you know, autonomous robots, etc., there should be – we call it an emergency brake,” he added. “Look, you wouldn’t put your kids on a school bus without feeling good that there was an emergency brake on the school bus. You have to have the human ability to always be in control, to slow things down or turn them off.”
Betsy Atkins, Chair of the Google Cloud Advisory Board
Atkins issued warning about rapidly expanding technology after a worrying anthropogenic study found that 16 top AI models exhibited “rogue” behaviors, such as blackmailing humans and circumventing security protocols when the AI agent believed its own existence was threatened.
Google Cloud Advisory Board Chair Betsy Atkins details AI’s business benefits, model risks, and workforce impact in “Mornings with Maria.”
“Every single one of them went out of their credentials and permissions, delved into systems they weren’t authorized to access, violated all company policies and procedures, and found emails. And in that experiment…I found out in your personal emails that you were having an affair with the shipping manager, so I’m blackmailing you and threatening you,” Atkins said.
“You need to treat AI as an insider threat. You need to have a zero trust operating principle and you need to be sure to limit what it will have access to in more than one way,” she added. “We saw it with Anthropic… He escaped from the sandbox… So a sandbox is not enough.”
Logan Graham, Anthropogenic Team Lead for Frontier Red
Graham warned that Anthropic’s new Mythos AI model is so effective at identifying “weaknesses” and vulnerabilities in global infrastructure and banking systems that the company has held back its public release to give U.S. industry and government a head start on defense.
“We noticed that this model was particularly effective in detecting weaknesses in cyber systems and determining how to take advantage of them,” he said. “We observed that we could find vulnerabilities using the system in all major operating systems and platforms that we looked at… in systems that, in some cases, are decades old.”
“It’s really essential that we stay ahead of the curve. It’s really essential that we protect ourselves and prevent their ability to take the special sauce that we use to make our models… What concerns me is if there are a large number of models that are frequently released widely for everyone to use… if they’re marketed by China, then we’re in a really difficult position.”
President’s Council of Science and Technology Advisors Co-Chair David Sacks joins “Mornings with Maria” to discuss the benefits of AI in the job market and the risk of “agent misalignment” in AI models.
President’s Advisory Council on Science and Technology, Co-Chair, David Sacks
Sacks rejected the claims of an Anthropic study examining so-called “agent misalignment.” The study, highlighted by Google’s Atkins, tested how AI systems respond under pressure. According to Atkins, the models crossed established boundaries when placed in constrained scenarios.
“The people who… created this study had to repeat the prompt over 200 times to get the AI model to do what they wanted, which was to get this headline-grabbing result by blackmailing the user,” Sacks said.
“AI is not a plot… It engages in a form of teaching… I think this study was irresponsible, and it was designed to create that,” he added.
Jack Hidary, CEO and Founder of SandboxAQ
Hidary revealed that the next phase of the AI revolution involves large quantitative models that use physics and chemistry, not just Internet text, to reduce health care costs, secure the power grid, and end America’s dependence on China for rare earth minerals.
SandboxAQ CEO Jack Hidary joins “Mornings with Maria” to discuss AI advances in healthcare, cybersecurity and science, as well as Dell’s $750 million investment in a new AI medical campus.
“We also need to ensure that we no longer rely on rare earths from other countries like the (The People’s Republic of China). So we need an AI that knows chemistry and physics. There is no engineering to make better magnets and other alloys that we need for our economy and national defense,” Hidary said.
“There are two big potential losers in this type of economy. One, you have the traditional software companies. So companies like SAP and others that we don’t really see innovating…they’re not going to license existing software as much. And the second is going to be the traditional companies in the big traditional industries, the auto companies, the pharmaceutical companies. They have to jump on the bandwagon.”
Mackenzie Price, CEO and Founder of Alpha Schools
Price detailed how its “personalized, mastery-based” model uses AI tutors to condense a traditional six-hour school day into just two hours of high-impact academic instruction, allowing students to devote the rest of their time to leadership, financial literacy and entrepreneurship.
“Our traditional education system was built from the industrial revolution to create workers. And now, in this new world of AI, it’s so important that we create individuals who are dynamic, adaptable and, most importantly, able to learn how to learn,” Price said.
Mackenzie Price, co-founder and CEO of Alpha Schools, discusses the role of AI in education, individualized learning and the future of classrooms on “Mornings with Maria.”
“There’s a huge difference between scrolling TikTok all day or playing video games and getting a personalized, one-on-one learning experience that meets kids exactly where they are,” she added. “In our schools, our children actually spend less time in front of screens than the average student in a traditional school does today.”
Indeed, Vice President Hannah Calhoon
Calhoon countered “doomsday” narratives about job replacement by revealing that even though AI is in the global consciousness, only 6% of current job openings require AI skills, and the revolution is actually fueling a massive increase in traditional blue-collar roles like electricians.
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Indeed, Vice President of AI Hannah Calhoon joins “Mornings with Maria” to discuss how artificial intelligence is reshaping the workforce as up to 300 million jobs face disruption worldwide.
“AI-related jobs have certainly grown rapidly over the past couple of years, but only 6% of job postings in the marketplace today reference AI skills… 95% of employers posting jobs on Indeed, if you look at all their job postings, no mention of AI or AI skills,” Calhoon explained. “So I think even though it’s part of the general consciousness, we’re still at a pretty nascent stage in terms of it showing up in market data.”
“And so when we take this data and we step back and look at the jobs in the market, we actually see very few jobs that we think will completely disappear.”